Monday, January 07, 2008

A Tale of Two Codes

In one shift....

An elderly patient who suddenly suffered a witnessed arrest at home (and who had an advance directive) was brought in already intubated by EMS after almost an hour of CPR/ACLS, reportedly in PEA. I fully intended to simply check for a pulse and call the code on arrival, but I thought I felt a thready pulse, so I looked with the ultrasound and sure enough, the heart was still beating. We worked on this patient for another half hour or so before our hearts finally gave up.

A youngish middle-aged woman with recently diagnosed widely metastatic breast cancer (including hemorrhagic brain mets) was brought into the ER for the new onset of unresponsiveness. She did not have a previous DNR order, and her family initially wanted "everything done." Instead of coding her, she was sent to the CT scanner where it was immediately evident that she would not survive more than a day or two even if the most aggressive interventions were performed. A long discussion with the family ensued, and she expired later that evening.

So we coded the elderly DNR patient and didn't code the youngish full-code patient.

Weird.

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7 Comments:

Blogger Eric, AKA The Pragmatic Caregiver said...

If only all family members of women with MBC were so easily convinced. Oncologists seem loathe to discuss futility, even in the case of CNS mets, and it makes me queasy.

E

1/07/2008 02:34:00 AM  
Anonymous DudeMD said...

Reminds me of an oldie but a goodie: Why do they put nails on coffins? To keep the oncologists out!

1/07/2008 05:13:00 AM  
Blogger Tex said...

You don't always code the patient, sometimes you code the family. We recently coded a DNR patient as well, the husband decided against the wishes of his wife. Advance directives are as worthless as the paper they are printed on.

1/07/2008 07:27:00 AM  
Blogger Scott said...

I'm glad you didn't wake her up. That would have just prolonged her suffering. I will be DNR if my cancer comes back!

1/07/2008 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger SeaSpray said...

I handed out and explained advanced directives often. I thought that a DNR meant that you will NOT resuscitate?

Also regarding advanced directives...I thought if the pt was of sound mind and they signed those directives designating their choices...pull the plug, don't pull the plug...feeding tube, etc., etc., that it was a legal document to be carried out. And aren't you on more solid ground when you follow the legal instructions?

Wasn't that the problem with Terri Schiavo? If only she HAD advanced directives?

My husband's grandmother was brought up to th ED with the paramedics - unable to breathe on her own. (copd) She didn't have advanced directives? The ED doc came out to tell us that her heart is strong but she can't live without life support and did we want her to do everything they could. The family unanimously said YES!

I thought if there aren't advanced directives that medical staff IS obligated to do everything they can?

Anyway, they did...but she avoided hospitals and doctors (I think practically phobic about it)her entire life except for her last child birth, was always surrounded by a loving family and now here she was intubated and alone a lot up in the ICU. She would've hated that. I used to visit her every nite when my shift was over although I always wondered if she could hear me. I think so - hearing last to go. Then 2 weeks on med fl and was about to be sent to a nursing home and THANKFULLY she died. I was on that night and the same ED doc and nurse came to tell me so I could go see her if I wanted to and I did.

I know you all see this stuff all the time and it must frustrate the heck out of you.

1/07/2008 07:34:00 PM  
Blogger DDx:dx said...

Here's my Code story:

http://poemd.blogspot.com/2007/09/cuffs-of-life.html

1/08/2008 12:40:00 AM  
Blogger Eric, AKA The Pragmatic Caregiver said...

seaspray:

That's why you want POLST or some other form of directive that is an actual set of physician's orders. There's more information on POLST paradigm at http://www.polst.org , a service of Oregon Health & Science University.

E

1/09/2008 01:54:00 AM  

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