Thursday, August 06, 2009

Part 2 - The Patients

First let me begin by admitting that I don't have an MBA or even a degree in economics. I haven't hashed out any numbers to see if this plan would even get off the ground, I have no authority to implement my recommendations, I have no illusions that these suggestions will ever become the blueprint for any sort of significant healthcare reform, and I fully expect to instead be led like the rest of you by the yoke of Hillarycare Obamacare over the cliff of doom as we plummet into a lobotomized pile of decaying socialized medicine zombies.

But it's my blog, and I don't have to support my assertions with facts. These are just the ideas of an anonymous ER doc in the trenches, so take them for what they are worth. I'm not breaking any new ground either, so anyone who thought I was going to reinvent the wheel is going to be just as disappointed as the liberals who won't be happy with any plan that requires any amount of personal responsibility or features any amount of inequity whatsoever.

So what is my solution? I'm not ready to tell you yet. But here's some more table-setting:

For the sake of argument, I'll divide people into 5 categories:

1) Healthy people with a few minor chronic medical problems who can afford insurance and want to be protected against the big expense of a surprise appendectomy or heart attack. We'll call this group "the typical family."

Currently, the typical family is doing OK with our current system, and they ultimately will do well with any system that is put in place. They would like to pay less for medical care, but so would everybody else. They have full access to care right now, but they are afraid that any change in the system will reduce their access to (or quality of) care and/or increase their costs further.

2) Healthy people who work and would like to pay something for their medical care, but lately it seems that medical insurance and healthcare costs too much for them. I'll call this group "the struggling family."

The struggling family is struggling, as usual. They have had a recent ER visit that they are gradually paying off (with difficulty), and they are scared of a really big ticket medical catastrophe that might bankrupt them. They would like to be insured, but would accept access to cheaper care if it were available. I'll also place the healthy young working-class uninsured into this category, but they aren't really scared of a medical catastrophe, they are just betting they will stay healthy and will deal with the consequences (for better or worse) if they fall ill. The medical industry and the responsible insured both need to be protected against the ones who bet wrong, because they drive up costs for everyone else.

3) People who think the government should provide everything for them and don't want to pay anything at all for their care. We'll call this group "the gold tooth trauma victims." They can be sometimes be identified by their gold jewelry, their expensive cell phones, or their dripping bodily fluids. Age 16-30 for the most part, their medical conditions are often self-induced.

The gold tooth club doesn't give a shit about healthcare reform, because they ain't paying nothin' anyway, foo. They give fake addresses, refusing to show ID so that we can't bill them, and they throw away all the prescriptions we write except the vicodin. They'd rather get a shot of antibiotics for their crack-induced bronchitis so they don't have to pay for a prescription.

The medical industry would like to get paid for our often expensive treatment of these patients, however, so we are the ones who need some help from the government in this case. These patients are putting a strain on the system, particularly on the inner-city county hospitals that are the true safety nets of society. They also drive up the cost of everyone else's medical care.

4) Chronically ill people with diseases that require frequent or expensive healthcare visits and are currently uninsurable. I'll call this group "the dialysis patients."

The chronically ill dialysis patients are all covered by Medicare and/or Medicaid, so they actually get outstanding medical care. Others who are chronically ill, for example the multiple sclerosis patients or the rheumatoid arthritis patients who don't quite qualify for disability and can't get medical insurance, are in more of a bind. They can't afford their Tysabri or their Remicade for much longer, and an ER visit or hospital admission is a financial disaster for them. They hope that whatever healthcare reform is passed somehow creates more Rheumatologists and Neurologists and also somehow requires their fellow citizens the government to pay for their expensive medications and therapies that they are increasingly unable to pay for themselves.

5) The poor, the children, and the disabled

Truly poor and disabled patients are already covered by Medicaid, as are poor children, otherwise they may fall into one of the above groups. The sick children of struggling or sick families occasionally fall through the cracks of our current system and deserve a solution.

So what are my solutions? Sorry, I'm going to have to string you along a bit more. These posts require a lot more thought than my typical "Ooh, look at this gross chunk of butt wax" post. I'm almost finished, but I'm still polishing it up a bit. Most of you aren't going to like it anyway, so don't get too excited.

Part 3

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Blogger Alison Cummins said...

(Canadian here, and I like my health-care system. It's uncomplicated, gives me full freedom of choice of health-care provider, raises no financial barriers to access and is part of a social safety net that results in less damage from poverty and *fewer* gold-tooth trauma victims. In other words, I am a brainwashed liberal and nothing I say makes sense.)

Question: don't people in Category 1 ever think they will join any of the other categories, particularly Category 4? Like, doesn't anyone think they will ever get old?

10/09/2007 05:47:00 AM  
Blogger tk said...

Alison--don't be critical of Cat I. I'm in Cat I, and I have been in Cat II. I worry about all of it . . . (Well, I'll never be in Cat III, but I digress . . .)

Scalpel--I'm looking forward to your solutions . . . I have an MBA, and I haven't go a clue what the answer should be.

10/09/2007 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alison (or anyone else with knowledge of the Canadian system)--I've heard that Canadian socialized medicine doesn't cover some long-term low-recovery treatments such as hemodialysis. Is that true? Are there any good sources I can cite?

10/09/2007 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alas, there is no solution. The mass of money and momentum is too great to be shifted. We're living at or very near the pinnacle of our civilization and after us, the flood.

The fastest growing area of medical expenses is administrative costs. Expect to see that spiral out of control in the immediate future as our political machinery demonstrates ever increasing, and well earned, contempt for their constintuency in the form of more and more blatant graft, bribery, and theft.

The Canadian system is more stable than ours, but the price is dramatically higher taxes and acceptance of socialized prioritization of need vs availability. You really think Dick Cheney is going to give up 20% more of his paycheck or wait in line like a prole for his next heart operation? When a Canadian *who can afford it* needs an operation he comes to the US or select European nations just like everyone else.

10/09/2007 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger scalpel said...

Alison, that is an important question which I will address in my next post.

10/09/2007 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we please not say "socialized medicine"? That phrase comes with so much baggage that it rarely clarifies anything.

How about "single payer system" instead?

10/09/2007 08:35:00 PM  
Blogger scalpel said...

When the single payer is the government, the two terms are interchangeable. And as we have been conditioned over generations to abhor the stench of rotting flesh, the foul odor of socialism is an important protective evolutionary defense mechanism as well.

Calling a bloated rotting carcass a free meal that has been naturally tenderized doesn't make it any more appetizing or healthy.

10/09/2007 08:45:00 PM  
Blogger Bohemian Road Nurse... said...

It doesn't matter if we like your opinion or not---I respect the fact that you have given serious thought to this awful, controversial dilemma. Hell, I haven't a dang CLUE on how to solve the problem, so I appreciate anybody who has a suggestion, even if it's not to my liking. I'm not smart enough myself to figure it out, nor am I schooled in economics (I hated taking econ in college...it was the cause of me buying some stock in a now-defunct airline in order to prove some stupid theory about "longterm investments"---and we all know how airline stock goes...) but I sure hope somebody can figure out a positive solution, ya know?

As for myself, my own doctor repeatedly nags me, every damn time I visit him, to quit my job and move to another, larger town in order to get a job with health insurance....and he's probably going to win in this endeavor.

But it will shatter my heart to leave Podunk and my friends here...

10/09/2007 09:05:00 PM  
Blogger Nurse K said...

I would like to give a shout-out to tort reform for Category #2s...and for everyone in general, I guess.

10/09/2007 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Zelda said...

Oh lord, the Gold Tooth Club description had me laughing out loud in the library at this late hour :)

10/09/2007 10:21:00 PM  
Blogger Alison Cummins said...

Anonymous 10:14:

No, that's a lie.

10/09/2007 10:34:00 PM  
Blogger Jen said...

Anonymous 10:14 Alison (or anyone else with knowledge of the Canadian system)--I've heard that Canadian socialized medicine doesn't cover some long-term low-recovery treatments such as hemodialysis. Is that true? Are there any good sources I can cite?


There is no one Canadian system- each province has a different health care system. The Ontario Health Insurance Program guidelines on dialysis are here http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/providers/program/ohip/bulletins/4000/bul4314f.html
I don't know whether that answers your question or not.

10/10/2007 03:30:00 AM  
Blogger SeaSpray said...

A Canadian blogger told me back in June that she is happy with her health care. She said she does have to wait for certain things and the equipment isn't always state-of-the- art. She also said it depends what providence you live in.

10/12/2007 12:21:00 AM  
Blogger scalpel said...

I'm sure they are happy with their stifling 55% income tax rates too.

10/12/2007 05:26:00 AM  
Blogger Lynn Price said...

Can we please not say "socialized medicine"? That phrase comes with so much baggage that it rarely clarifies anything.

Baggage? You bet it does. It means that the government is dipping their filthy fingers into my pocket to extract every bit of blood I have so that those who have less for whatever reason can enjoy the same benefits (and sometimes more) off the fruits of my labor. You don't like the sound of "socialized medicine"? Good. You shouldn't.

I fully expect to instead be led like the rest of you by the yoke of Hillarycare over the cliff of doom as we plummet into a lobotomized pile of decaying socialized medicine zombies.

Bite your tongue, Scalpel. Rolling over in the face of tyranny is exactly what the non-producers want. They want to kill the golden goose for votes. My only question is where are they going to go when we're dead?

10/12/2007 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger Lynn Price said...

Something I'd like to add about the wonderful Canadian healthcare system. My parents have Canadian friends (snowbirds) who vacation in Palm Springs. The man had a fairly serious heart attack. He was rushed to the hospital where the ER guys got him stabilized.

The hospital immediately called his insurers in Canada and were told that they were not to admit the man. That they could only stabilize him enough so he could fly him back to Canada where he would receive treatment. They wouldn't approve ANY treatment for him in the US.

The doc grabbed the phone and asked if they wanted this man's death on their hands should he die en route. The insurance folks hung up on the doc.

Any time you get the government involved in anything, you cease being a person. You're either a paying member of the Golden Goose Society or a liability. And your best interests will never be a priority.

10/12/2007 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger Flarin' Karen said...

Hello again, SS

What you are doing by this risk pooling isn't economics so much as actuarial science. You aren't an actuary but you play one on your blog.

I fall into the cat 4 with chronically ill and think it would be nice for someone else to pay my bills, mostly the meds. This is no longer an insurable event in the original sense of insurance; it's no more risky than my next grocery bill or house note. What I would like at this point is not insurance to mitigate future risk, but simply welfare to pay my bills.

I would not be able to afford the insurance through the proposed exchange which will require me to pay up to 12% of my income in premiums (quick, do some mental calculations and see what this would mean that YOU would pay, premiums aren't capped above a certain income level and susidies only begin for individuals earning less than 45 grand) after paying over a thousand dollars a month in premiums I would still be required to fork up 25% in deductibles and meds and the out of pocket max is $5000 for individuals and $10,000 for families. WH marketing omits that this is am annual out of pocket max but other sources summarizing all three bills say that it's per year. You all can google it yourself if you are interested in the details :-)

I also found out that Billy Tauzin former Senator represents the pharmaceutical lobby and got biologics a 12 year exclusivity period after meeting with Kennedy, I think NYT has article on this but the pharmaceutical rags have been discussing it for a while (So that adalimumab isn't going to be coming cheap to us for a long time, but it surely won't be as expensive as stem cell therapy.

I think there is something fishy about the way this bill won't go into effect until 2013, Congress has the power to enact reform within weeks if it wanted to. A whole lot could happen before that year that would defang this bill it's almost like they are throwing it into the briar patch deliberately.

I am sure that I'm not the only chronically ill patient with private insurance that will be negatively impacted by this bill. This is going to get interesting.

8/06/2009 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger Liz Ditz said...

You left out a group, mine -- the entrepreneurs and the self-employed. We work, but mostly for ourselves or other small businesses. We have had our own health insurance, and pay for it through the nose if we can get it. Moving from State A to State B is a gigantic issue -- will we be able to get insurance in State B?

8/17/2009 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger Liz Ditz said...

More on my point of view.

I understand from a historical point of view why health insurance is tied to employment, but that was then and this is now.

Why should people make decisions about employment based on access to insurance? It's loony and it is counter-productive.

8/17/2009 07:55:00 PM  
Blogger Basiorana said...

Then there's the people who are waiting for a disability decision, unable to work, and have short periods of 6 months to a year where they are truly sick and disabled, cannot afford health insurance due to insanely high premiums due to their medical problems, and are not covered by Medicaid or Medicare.

I want a plan for temporary, ie, lasts about 6 months, emergency health insurance that is as easy to get on as food stamps-- you get on it in a month or less once you provide proof of your lack of finances, and it covers your absolute necessities of care (so no dental checkups, but certainly mental health care, dialysis, etc) until your Medicaid/disability decision comes in.

The current system leaves a lot of people screwed over for the period between the end of their last healthcare plan and the start of their Medicaid/disability, particularly young people who are switching from a parent's plan that couldn't exclude them.

8/26/2009 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger anneke said...

Chronic illnesses rarely just 'emerge' from nowhere. Better health care pre-chronic illness can prevent, delay or decrease the complications later on. And often prevention is cheaper too.

So category 4 patients may be well looked after, but where's the focus on preventing them becoming cat 4? Eg if doctors visits, blood sugar meters, diabetes medications and all the other paraphenalia required by a diabetic are expensive or difficult to access, renal disease, cardiac disease and so on are far more likely. This is bad for the patient and for the health care system that is then left covering the costs of chronic illness.

In Australia we have a public system that focuses on general practice + health promotion (but also covers dialysis etc). It is backed up by a private system for those who can afford it. Rebates encourage those who can afford it to get private insurance, but the public system is available for everyone.

9/22/2009 02:28:00 AM  
Blogger chuckr44 said...

"3) People who think the government should provide everything for them and don't want to pay anything at all for their care."

If all the senators and representatives had money deducted from their salary to take care of these people, then congress might actually move the get something effective in place to reduce the costs these people incur.

When I rented an apartment I had to show picture ID, and a utility bill from 2 months ago, with my name on it, for my previous residence. This ensures that I actually lived at the previous residence as claimed. Make the ER do the same thing, or no treatment. Release the ER of all liability if they don't show picture ID and utility bill with their name on it.

Next, bill all people with no insurance via credit card and let the credit card companies take care of getting the money. Problem solved.

My Primary dr. used to have a credit card on file for just this purpose. That's how they ensured they got their copay.

10/05/2009 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger Loren Pechtel said...

There are plenty of people in category 4 that don't qualify for government help.

Furthermore, the real problem with our system is that there is no way to insure against ending up there no matter what premiums you pay. If your employer drops coverage that's it--you're uninsured until you find a new job.

12/18/2009 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Hisham Soliman said...

LOL at the gold-tooth trauma victims

7/08/2011 01:30:00 PM  

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