Friday, March 02, 2007

Learning to Fly


















Our facility just rolled out a shiny new electronic medical record and computerized order entry system this week. Emergency physicians are now encouraged (well, forced) to order all laboratory tests, X-rays, and medications electronically, via drop-down menus on computer screens. And of course all patient charts are created with a keyboard and touchscreens too. The paper system which had served us well for so many years is now officially extinct.

Although we were trained how to use the new system, it's difficult to learn the intricacies of something like that until you are actually in the hot seat. I initially found it very difficult to concentrate on patient care while I became accustomed to the new system. When you have to spend an extra 10 minutes trying to figure out how to order a suture kit, for example, that's 10 minutes you aren't spending thinking about your patients.

I liken it to trying to fly a plane with which one is unfamiliar: a pilot trained to fly piston-powered airplanes transitioning to light jets for example. You can train on a fllght simulator for weeks but still not be able to open the door to the jet when you try to board the real thing. And while you know how to fly a plane, you might not know how to lower the landing gear on THIS particular plane. So the possibility of a crash is increased.

Little quirks in the system were both frustrating and amusing. A urine pregnancy test was inadvertently added to the urinalysis of an elderly gentleman (thankfully, it was negative). A patient was accidentally discharged from the system, and it took us 15 minutes before we could figure out how to find and replace the electronic record so that we could resume charting and writing orders.

A simple x-ray cannot be ordered without answering multiple drop-down questions:

1) is the patient allergic to iodine? (no, but I'm not giving any iodinated contrast; it's a foot X-ray)
2) does the patient have a working IV? (no, but he doesn't need one; it's only a foot X-ray, dammit!!)
3) did the patient drink contrast? (no, does any patient EVER drink contrast for an X-ray of a stubbed toe? AAARRRGH!!!)

We also get lots of WARNING ALERTS like this:

1) The pain level for this patient (1/10) is severely above normal!!!!!
2) The systolic blood pressure for this patient (139) is severely above normal!!!!!
3) Severe drug interaction!!!!!!! (if we give a dose of Toradol in the ED and then discharge the patient on Motrin, for example)

How did we let this happen? Shock the monkey!

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19 Comments:

Blogger ERnursey said...

We went to an EMR last year, it has pluses, but it is slow! When we went live it was so awful for two months that we were suicidal.

3/02/2007 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God, I hate EMR. It has its places - primarily in complicated medical situations such as inpatient medicine - but it is a square peg being shoved into round holes where it does not fit. Electronic patient management in the ED can be a godsend. Electronic medical records are a $)!*(ing pain. Is it just to avoid liability or do they actually enjoy torturing us with constant "Are you SURE you want to give the patient imodium?" and "WARNING: Patient being given >500mL saline, click this button five times to override"?

3/02/2007 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine being at an extremely busy county hospital and having to deal with this same crap. Been through this damn frustrating thing a year ago, my friend. We still haven't solved the quirks and crap in our system yet. Good luck to you, Scalp.

During our last contract renegotiation, we relented and allowed the hospital administrators to institute the Press-Ganey survey. Our group bonus depends on not only PG satisfaction scores, but also total patient volume, lowering the waiting time to be seen, and patient seen per hour...which of course, ties into the PG scores. Needless to say, since going to EMR, our patient/hr has gone down, but our total volume has increased by ~10,000. Which translate to a higher waiting time and hence, lower PG scores....which means we ain't getting no stinking bonus.

3/02/2007 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger Graham said...

I created my GMR for exactly that reason. Clearly whoever made the EMR didn't test the software with physicians or ER clerks or staff, they just tested it with engineers to make sure it would work. They don't care if the software thinks like a physician or not, which is ridiculous. We should demand better.

3/02/2007 11:38:00 PM  
Blogger Dr Dork said...

Where did you get that picture of me from ????

Electrickery will be great once all the bugs are resolved. Yet we currently waste a lot of time swatting bugs - even worse for you ER docs, I imagine.

Dork

3/03/2007 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous beajerry said...

One step closer to Gilliam's Brazil.

3/03/2007 04:18:00 AM  
Blogger View from the Trekant said...

You have my sympathies. We struggle with a not-too-bad EMR in clinic, but I can't imagine using one in an emergency. I'm waiting for the story that a Pixis-like device wouldn't dispense the life-saving medication due to 'incorrect code entry' or some similiar nonsense.

Echo Doc

3/03/2007 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the name of the EMR?

3/03/2007 12:11:00 PM  
Blogger TBTAM said...

My sympathies....

We went to an EMR in June 2006, and I'm still not adjusted. I find that I am working longer hours than ever trying to get all my work done online. Paper was better (at least for me...)

3/04/2007 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger Sid Schwab said...

I guess I've missed this aspect of EMR: having to follow stupid algorhythms, etc, to get things ordered. Our hospital did something similar, and it was hell to navigate. On the other hand, what I've thought of when I consider EMR is the way our clinic shifted to it was the way in which all labs, xrays (digitized and in the record!), office notes, consults, etc, were instantly available. No more lost charts, no more patients showing up for a consult with me without knowing what's going on. And, when hospitalized, because we had terminals there too, we could access the entire clinic record instantly, day or nite. That's the good side.

3/04/2007 07:51:00 PM  
Blogger Mother Jones RN said...

EMR sounds awful. I wonder if the software program was invented by some guy who hated his doctor.


MJ

3/05/2007 12:41:00 AM  
Blogger scalpel said...

It's not ALL bad, as a couple of you have mentioned. The pluses are that at least you can read all the charts now. Some of the docs' handwriting was so bad their charts were completely unreadable. And it automatically timestamps every entry, which is nice. The chart that is ultimately created is a big improvement.

The drawbacks are that everything in the chart is not necessarily true. Because it takes so long to input data, the temptation is to use prewritten "macros" which have a lot of "normal" H+P data already bundled together into a nice cozy package.

One of the guys said for example "Screw it...every patient with a sore throat is going to have a duration of two days, with swollen tonsils, exudates, and anterior cervical adenopathy." I think that makes for bad medicine.

3/05/2007 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous jones said...

When EMR hits my ER. I retire.

3/05/2007 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Leah said...

Overheard @ Peds Office by Dr. who had taken a 3 years leave: "No, I want the CHART, you know? Where we once wrote things about the PATIENT? We noted IMPORTANT things." Later in that same visit - I mentioned a condition she'd never heard of...GASP! She consulted a BOOK and THANKED me for the learning moment. I'd thought she'd look it up on the internet later.

Why does my Ped and FP use electronic laptops when we see them, but the OB actually has a thin little file she mysteriously consults? All 3 departments are in the same clinic.

3/05/2007 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger Sid Schwab said...

For clarification: in my clinic we didn't have algorhythms for ordering or for doing H and Ps. We still dicated our notes; but the transcription was done immediately and digitally, so it became part of the record and accessible within an hour or so of the dictation. Usually. So we didn't have to fight the fights you describe.

3/06/2007 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger Robin said...

Until the programs are so advanced that they can be modified by the end user to suit their needs (speaking of macros here!) without screwing up the functions, the end user will continue to be forced to bend to the program instead of the program bending to the end uese.

That's kind of the difference between Internet Ecplorer & Firefox, between Windows and MacOSX, etc, etc. (This from one using IE7 at the monment, and never having used MacOSX)/

3/07/2007 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Moof said...

In a post I wrote last summer, I pointed out that all of the research I'd done tended to show that, for the most part, physicians were not thrilled with the inexorable move to EMRs. I got a few interesting comments from physician bloggers.

EMRs don't have to be a step in the wrong direction - they need to be chosen carefully, adapted to the particular needs of each department, and implemented slowly - over a long period, so that lives aren't endangered through the common, almost unavoidable mistakes which happen when people aren't familiar with even a simple system - which EMRs definitely are not.

By the way, I love the photo you used ... :o)

3/07/2007 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Lindsay said...

*sigh* At least I don't have to control+alt+del my paper and pen.

3/10/2007 04:41:00 PM  
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6/20/2008 04:19:00 PM  

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